That would make the fight a cakewalk for Gotenks. His form is stronger than Goku’s too. Georgie-Porgie: 11: 12/17 8:07AM: This review tears Vegeta a new one. Of course, we will try to back up our claims with a satisfactory explanation. However, we’ve chosen characters that are much stronger than him. In this video we are analyzing the reasons why Vegeta is Stronger than Goku currently. He was able to hold his own during Frieza’s base form, but after that, it was all downhill. Such is life for the Prince. Vegeta fought bravely, but his strength wasn’t enough to fight Jiren. It was an admirable effort on his part, but not enough. Now, you should be reminded that the prisoners from the Moro corps (so likely weaker than those Tien and Krillin are fighting) after being powered up, were able trade blows with Base Goku and Vegeta, and then 2 of them went also against SSJ Goku enad SSJ Veggy (albeit they were drained). Krillin stomps. After beating Dodoria and Zarbon, Vegeta was feeling pretty confident. When Gohan gets his potential unlocked, he instantly becomes the strongest fighter in the Majin Buu arc. Goku Black was just Zamasu in Goku’s body. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Goku, Vegeta and Frieza are the three at the top. The pink blob survived the attack and lived to fight another day. If Vegeta doesn't go Oozaru then Krillin is way too strong for him, if he does however Krillin probably can't win. Vegeta and Goku try to attack Jiren together and it ends really badly for both of them. Among Dragon Ball Z fans, there's a pretty fierce debate over whether Krillin is actually stronger than Tien. If he saw Gohan take on Super Buu, he would certainly eat his words from the Dabura fight. I don't really care a whole bunch for this Tien and Krillin debate but the latter is clearly the stronger of the two. Gotenks is able to transform into a Super Saiyan 3. Perhaps Vegeta himself is too proud to accept such help in the first place. This was one of Vegeta’s biggest mistakes. Vegeta and Gotenks don’t fight, but there would be no contest if they did. Vegeta doesn’t actually do that bad. He somehow managed to live and heal himself. His Super Saiyan Rose transformation made the relatively new Super Saiyan Blue look outdated and useless. Next the other Z-fighter had training from Kaiosama where only Krillin got a power boost tha was not enough to fight the Ginyu Force but afterwards he trained, suppasing Yamcha, and equal to Tien without Kaio's training. There’s no way Vegeta would’ve lasted long against Meta-Cooler without Goku. Hit uses his time skip to break through Vegeta’s defences and knock him out. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. It is hilarious to me that a random fat human Samurai cut it off. Although he does get his moment during the final struggle. He could’ve easily won the fight had he decided not to do that. Vegeta can try all he might, but he’s no match for Beerus’ assistant. History Talk (0) Comments Share. Super Saiyan 3 Goku wasn’t enough, so Vegeta wasn’t going to stand a chance. While he does sway the final struggle in Gohan’s favor with a Ki blast, there’s no forgetting his huge loss. While true, claiming Dragon Ball Super's Krillin is stronger than pre-Namek Vegeta barely qualifies as a compliment. Though seeing as how Roshi did wreck Tien then it should be him. They do manage to survive until Goku arrives, but barely. He does manage to save a bunch of people from a wayward blast from the beast. We’re going to consider two main factors. They both attack at the same time but to no avail. Not only is Whis strong, but he’s able to react without thinking. On his own, Vegeta would’ve met his demise. Is Vegeta not actually a SSB and DBS is his dream of getting strong because his power was drawn past his limits by Babidi? However, Goku always has the upper hand and is one step ahead. No chance of even hoping for victory. Himself, Gohan, and Krillin have a difficult fight against him. I don’t blame him as Goku had to use his Super Saiyan 3 form to finally win. To Vegeta’s credit, he does put up the best fight out of the Z-Fighters (minus Goku). He had just finished destroying Android 19 and was full of confidence. Which is strange since even Gotenks or Gohan couldn’t win, despite being stronger. Android 18: Wait a minute! Vegeta tried his best against Hirudegarn but falls well short. Krillin fought with vegeta, nappa, freeza, cell, buu, etc and yamcha didn't fight nearly anybody. The thing is, Goku and Vegeta have never had a proper 1-vs-1 fight to the end. Krillin is way stronger than the Vegeta that is trying to bust the planet against Goku. Hopefully, he gets a better role in the Dragon Ball Super movie. Krillin has six small dots on his forehead and a monk-like orange gi as a child. At this point, it’s fair to say that Vegeta would’ve lost even if he mastered Ultra Instinct. His form is stronger than Goku’s too. It’s evidence of his astounding spirit and determination. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Vegeta the pathetic joke of a character. He isn’t able to fight back at all. The only concession he gets was that Goku was right there beside him getting beat as well. The powercreep is too much in Cell Saga for Vegeta. Yet, he somehow managed to surpass the real Goku and Vegeta. This is a list of 25 characters that can defeat Vegeta in a 1-vs-1 fight. Krillin would destroy Vegeta. When Krillin fought cell (1st form) krillin took a lot of damage against cell and cell thought to him self that he had to be careful. That begs the question, why hasn’t Goku taught Vegeta how to use the Kaio-Ken? Again I did not say he was stronger than Tien. www.cbr.com CBR Exclusives ssgvegeto 2 years ago #2 Krillin was always stronger, but Tien's Tri-Beam could stun Krillin because Tien managed to stun Semi-Perfect Cell despite the huge power gap. He had finally become a Super Saiyan and was temporarily stronger than Goku. Each Cell Junior was about as strong as a Super Saiyan. The other factor is people who could beat Vegeta in a fight if there was one. Krillin is above Yamcha, but not by enough to matter for this logic train. However, it’s clear that Android 18 is still by far stronger than Krillin as she is shown to be worried about him and the episode (84) makes it clear that she is still significantly stronger than Krillin. Android 18. Vegeta would not enter this fight unless he know he would win, and Vegeta was stronger than Initial Form Frieza. Goku - regularly abandons his friends and Krillin - punched Krillin in the face in Super-Didn't avenge Krillin the 1000s of times he's died or turned to stone.-Doesn't even consider Krillin for the Top-Calls Krillin weak and says he's a … 30 Stronger: Goku. Vegeta was still stuck on Super Saiyan 2 and weaker than Fat Buu. Kefla doesn’t battle Vegeta, but she’s on a completely different level. More: Dragon Ball Super's Gohan Is Much Stronger Than You Think He struggled against Fat Buu and resorted to blowing himself up. He is not really a baby!!! Yeah what I believe is not that Vegeta was 'stronger than Goku', but rather had a stronger base form than Goku at that point in time, while Goku relied too much on the kaioken. Most famously, he purposefully held back his Super Saiyan 3 form against Majin Vegeta. If he got any stronger after that it wouldn't have been a large leap. Piccolo; Hell yes, when he fused with Kami he was able to fight Android 17 evenly, who is stronger than 18; who wrecked Super Sayain Vegeta easily. During his training with Goku under Ma… Krillin vs. Tien is hard because we never see a good side by side battle of them in DBZ except vs Nappa. Gotenks is able to transform into a Super Saiyan 3. As Dragon Ball’s main character, it’s only natural Goku be stronger than his rivals, but Vegeta actually has surpassed him on occasion. At first, it even seems that Vegeta has forced Beerus to take the fight seriously. Because he got his potential unlocked as a child with the Ultra Divine Water. It was sad watching him get beat by Frieza after making such a bold (and incorrect) claim. Krillin From Dragon Ball Z The Tournament Of Power. It happens again in the Android Saga when Android 18 shows up after he blasts Android 19. Vegeta gets a power boost after the battle and gets his revenge against Zarbon. Two Super Saiyan 4 warriors weren’t enough to take this guy down. He simply can’t keep up with Whis and thus will easily be defeated. One of the most iconic anime match-ups. 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Super Android 13 wrecks the entire Z-Fighters squad and leaves them all on the brink of perishing. As an adult, he is still short, standing at only 5 feet tall.Earlier on in the series, Krillin had eye whites. View source. Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Vegeta fought against several forms of Majin Buu and it always ended with his loss. I disagree. It wouldn’t be right to compare Cell Saga Vegeta with Saiyan Saga Goku. But when it came to the final boss, he didn’t stand a chance. Actually, they were a little bit better since they managed to beat the likes of Vegeta, Goku, and Trunks. Krillin would still destroy Vegeta at the end of the Namek saga who only was still weaker than Goku. The fight doesn’t last long since he completely outclasses Vegeta in every regard. Vegeta was completely destroyed after Freiza's numerous transformations. On his own though? This fight catches Vegeta at a bad time. Krillin. He also gained the strength needed to leave Vegeta on the verge of perishing. In DBZ it was stated that Krillin was the strongest human fighter. Krillin beats Kaguya. That’s the thing with him. At times, it’s almost a bit of a joke how much Vegeta gets thrown around. Here are 15 Dragon Ball characters stronger than Vegeta (and 15 strange ones who aren’t)! And Vegeta gets demolished with ease. 2 words...senzu beans. Now, we do have a few disclaimers for the list. Tien and Krillin; no although they both have attacks that could do serious damage they’re still not strong enough to say they could beat Namek Freeza. And since he was already in Other World, he would’be had nowhere else to run. Another Dragon Ball movie, another day of Vegeta getting whooped. All things considered, it would seem that though Krillin's power is getting further and further away from Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan, he's managed to keep in-pace with most of the Dragon Ball supporting characters, not allowing himself to be left too far behind. To add insult to injury, Goku actually puts up a decent fight thanks to his Kaio-Ken. I think a stronger, faster Krillin could manage it. But Krillin was the only person that could have killed Nappa if not for Vegeta's inteference. Why Is Goku stronger than vegeta. Krillin is Stronger than a Super Saiyan? There is really no proof Krillin is much stronger than Vegeta was. Including the self-proclaimed strongest in the world. While there are many moves weaker than the great planet-destroying technique there are also a few stronger as well. 1. Once the hero has outgrown their "Krillin," or the weaker "best friend" character, it's time for the Vegeta to step up to the plate. However, that's not an accurate representation of his power. In contrast, Vegeta During the Saiyan saga has a base power level of 18,000 and 180,000 in great ape form. It’s almost as if Akira Toriyama enjoys writing Vegeta as a bit of a gag character from time to time. In the Android Saga, Yamcha was as strong as base Goku at the end of the Frieza saga. But that ends with him being pushed aside with ease and Gohan getting his left arm. Vegeta did not stand a chance against Frieza during the Namek arc. However, he uses up too much energy and falls unconscious after saving many lives. He possibly becomes stronger than Saiyan Saga Vegeta after his fat namek guy buff. By scaling Frost should be stronger than RoF FF Frieza. Or as this list shows, 26th strongest in the Dragon Ball world. In the name of fairness, this entry pits Krillin against arguably his worst enemy without any beneficial conditions. Krillin is stronger than Yamcha at the start of DBZ. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. Alright, gonna do some math and estimation that starts with one fact. Sign Up for free (or Log In if you already have an account) to be able to post messages, change how messages are displayed, and view media in posts. Press J to jump to the feed. His Final Flash attack was impressive but wasn’t able to finish the job. Arale could even defeat Jiren or Beerus if that’s what the writers wanted, so Vegeta is nothing. But that was quite a long time back. Even when the odds are against him, he manages to keep at it until he can’t get up. It’s only because of Gohan that they made it out alive. Krillin's last known power level was 75,000 which was after he had his potential unlocked, thus nearing the peak of his power. After tanking Vegeta’s attacks, he launches a counterattack. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Vegeta thinks too much before attacking which reduces his speed and efficiency. In contrast, Vegeta During the Saiyan saga has a base power level of 18,000 and 180,000 in great ape form. He has also become quite rusty due to this as he has “apparently" stopped training. Vegeta was stronger than the base form of Android 13, 14, and 15. He may put up a good fight because of his strong will, but that’s about all he can muster against a vastly superior foe. Ultimately, it was the power of fusion that allowed Goku and Vegeta to win. However, after seeing his son and the others in trouble, he rushes in to help. Everytime he gets stronger, a new, more powerful villain shows up to ruin his day. Which really puts into perspective Vegeta’s lack of power during the Cell Games. Krillin can't be stronger than Tien. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! While there is a 30-minute time limit, that’s more than enough for Gotenks to beat Vegeta. In the Android Saga, Yamcha was as strong as base Goku at the end of the Frieza saga. He tried his best, but Janemba’s teleportation abilities and power were too great. It seems one-sided, as Vegeta is always vowing to surpass Goku, but the truth is: Vegeta was stronger than Goku in their first encounter. Why not start things off with the most obvious entry? Krillin is above Yamcha, but not by enough to matter for this logic train. Zamasu had an unfair advantage since he wished for immortality. Even though Vegeta was stronger, there was nothing he could do about immortality. Vegeta was not able to scratch Omega Shenron at all. Krillin is not naturally bald; due to his original monastic training, he merely shaves his head and waxes it. Hit and Vegeta battle during the Universe 6 vs Universe 7 arc. I don't know how much stronger Vegeta becomes as a great ape but Krillin is the last human Vegeta wants to see as a great ape. Another movie villain in the same vein as Broly and Bojack, but he’s the original. For this category, it’s only fair to consider Vegeta’s strength at that time. Fanboi: 347: 12/15 3:02PM: List people stronger than krillin: AntiNoob: 10: 12/8 9:20PM Androids 18 and 17 are both human, and both stronger than Krillin. This allows him to move at extremely high speeds and dodge most conventional attacks. Could mean a lot of things though, it could have been an offhand comment to Toriyama. Usually adversarial, the "Vegeta" is a rival who slowly works their way up to frenemy status they -- but usually he -- tries to surpass the hero's level of power. He even unlocks a new power-up for his Super Saiyan Blue transformations. Vegeta has always been stronger than Goku, but only with them at the same level.On the Sayan saga, when they fought on their base form, Goku needed th In fact, Vegeta’s Super Saiyan forms are usually more powerful than Goku’s, but they are always developed after Goku's initial ascent. Android 18 shot down that confidence with relative ease. Still, Vegeta gets the last laugh as he survived and Cooler didn’t. He has the power and capabilities to do some serious damage to the planet as that of a nuclear atomic bomb. For comparative standards, we are comparing all moves to Vegeta's use of the Final Flash against Perfect Cell before the Cell Games. Piccolo. He could be seen chilling at home watching TV, which is strange for the Saiyan. Of course, it was unrealistic to expect Vegeta to beat Jiren. As strong as he is, Android 17 won't quite be at the level of characters like Goku, Vegeta, and Frieza. Even though he did have to team up with Goku to do it, Vegeta played an integral role in the battle. Her overwhelming strength catches Jiren’s attention during his meditation. Out of the 25 fighters most have indeed managed to beat Vegeta in a fight. 2. However, he can’t deny the fact that he came close to passing during his first attempt. Taking a look at Krillin’s performance in the … It was strange seeing Vegeta unwilling to fight and give up without trying. Arale is a gag character and her strength can be whatever the writer wants it to be at any time. Goku, Gohan, Future Trunks, Vegeta, and Piccolo were unable to even scratch the Legendary Super Saiyan. Goku is stronger than Vegeta because Goku has ascended to Super Saiyan 3 something that Vegeta never achieved unless you played the video games. Vegeta was kind enough to put him out of his misery. Vegeta could not hurt her in their fight, that's cannon material, these guys could. That’s why in Dragon Ball Super she was able to easily knock Vegeta into the distance. There is no denying that Vegeta is one of the strongest characters in the Dragon Ball franchise but there are at least 25 fighters who are stronger! She even forces Goku into his Ultra Instinct state which he uses to win the fight. The first is all of the characters that have actually beat Vegeta in a fight. She completely humiliated him and was far too powerful. on his way to planet namek Goku was just killing himself and devouring senzu beans. This might even bring back memories of when a Great Ape Gohan stomped Vegeta. Krillin. It’s unfair, but the fact is Zamasu can now beat Vegeta, despite being weaker. In fact, Vegeta actually seems to lose a lot of fights over the course of the various Dragon Ball shows. of 5; Next ; Last ; You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. However, once the fusion was over, so was their ability to fight back. Bojack’s strength would be close to that of Perfect Cell, putting him above Vegeta’s league. He stomped semi-perfect Cell but stood no chance against the Perfect form. Origins: Dragon Ball. This puts Krillin stronger than third form Frieza and base Goku at the end of the saga, putting Krillin's power level above 3,000,000. In DBS, he is living a peaceful and carefree life. Another embarrassing moment for the Prince of all Saiyans. Does that mean that Goku's peak of power is only in the hundreds? I don't think it's fair to definitively say Tien is stronger. You are indeed where you belong. While there is a 30-minute time limit, that’s more than enough for Gotenks to beat Vegeta. The Z-Fighters had a hard time of it against them. With these hypothetical comparisons, it’s hard to definitely say that Vegeta would lose. Vegeta was so shocked at first, he completely lost the will to fight. Beerus and Vegeta have a small fight during the Battle of Gods arc. Krillin. So it wasn’t all bad for Vegeta, but he’s still no match for the shadow dragon. Baby Vegeta is a stupid name. The two of them barely managed to beat him while fighting together. Both Zamasu and Goku Black were able to outclass Vegeta. | Dragon Ball Super Ep.84 - Reaction and Commentary ... Goku and Vegeta meet Beerus, Goku vs Beerus, Beerus's visit to … Here are five moves stronger and five moves weaker than Vegeta's Final Flash. Vegeta gets angry after Beerus slaps Bulma and becomes stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku. He may have been beat, but he fought with gusto. Goku is Vegeta’s rival, however the same does not hold true in reverse. Then, the latter transforms into an ugly form. There’s no doubt that Vegeta is one of the strongest fighters from the Dragon Ball franchise. Of course, we all know how the rest of the story goes. Krillin as we know him is stronger than any human ever lived. Vegeta strives to surpass Kakarot. 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